MLS 14 Day 3 Red server - race 7 - BatBoat Cancellation Explanation

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Batboat
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MLS 14 Day 3 Red server - race 7 - BatBoat Cancellation Explanation

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Submission Type:
PC

1. Your registered Boat Name:
Batboat

2. Race Day:
3

3, Group (colour):
Red

4. Race (number):
1 (7)

5. Time (in Replay):
22:57

6. Rule(s) applicable:
17

7. Boat(s) involved:
BatBoat and Euphoria

8. Description:
BatBoat is inside overlapped boat on starboard tack fetching mark. Umpire makes a 17.1 (now rule 17). No rules broken, BatBoat is not sailing above proper course. There is high sea and I am surfing - so I am actually going "lower" than proper course.

9. Print Screen attached (required for a manual protest):
No

10. Replay attached (recommended):
No.
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euphoria
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Re: MLS 14 Day 3 Red server - race 7 - BatBoat Cancellation Explanation

Post by euphoria »

BatBoat sailed a 14.2° higher course than Orione (a reference who was sailing a proper corurse).
And 32.5° higher course than BatBoat sailed when he gybed at the mark.
His TWA must have been around 150° when VSK gave the call.
I believe that is above proper course.

Maybe BatBoat has a video recording from the race which can justify his course?

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Re: MLS 14 Day 3 Red server - race 7 - BatBoat Cancellation Explanation

Post by duffy »

I am not familiar with a tool in VSK 5 to read the heading of another boat; but I am sure that it is a wrong tool to determine a boat's proper course. In Case Book 2021-24 CASE 134 you can read: .."depends on the existing conditions.....the wind strength and direction....the waves...". With big waves, and as BatBoat argues: " I am surfing", proper course depends at any moment on the existing conditions.
CASE 14: "When, owing to a difference of opinion about a leeward boat's proper course, two boats on the same tack converge, the windward boat must keep clear."
This supports BatBoat's explanation.
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Duffy
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Re: MLS 14 Day 3 Red server - race 7 - BatBoat Cancellation Explanation

Post by Batboat »

I was sailing on my labtop in Jutland so unfortunately no (no video)
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Re: MLS 14 Day 3 Red server - race 7 - BatBoat Cancellation Explanation

Post by duffy »

What's wrong in sailing in Jutland?
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Re: MLS 14 Day 3 Red server - race 7 - BatBoat Cancellation Explanation

Post by euphoria »

It looks like Batboat was quite tight on the layline initially, so keeping TWA 150 for a little while gave him a smooth rounding and he was therefore not very much above proper course. A little too far from the mark, but within reasonable limits. Not worth a penalty.

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Re: MLS 14 Day 3 Red server - race 7 - BatBoat Cancellation Explanation

Post by steviekouris »

Facts:


Conclusion:
Batboat did not sail above his proper course

Decision:
Pen Cancel is accepted. No further action.
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